What is NWBIG ?

[WatchGuy]

I think we have a very exciting year ahead.

o yeah. if all these rumors come true, gonna be a huge step forward in the rolex rep game.

unfortunately, there are going to be steps back in the rolex franken game since new parts are going to be put on lockdown.

 

[Timnic54]

I think it is new movements which will make the biggest advances in the Rep world for the next few years. It has always been restricted by available movements and that is changing.

 

[Timnic54]

As an update . Here is a list of watches commonly accepted as NWBIG

Audemars Piguet ROO Diver JF V7

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms (black) ZF + Blue steel and Blue Titanium. But closed back only.

Breitling Avenger GMT GF (first batch with correct DW)
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss Chrono (Noob)
Breitling SuperOcean Heritage Black (Noob V2, no longer produced)
Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish H-factory v2 (arrow second hand version)
Breitling SuperOcean II 44mm (Noob) (black only)

Bvlgari Diagono Magnesium GF, last version

Cartier Santos XL V6
Cartier, Ballon Bleu 42mm, V6F V4

Franck Muller Casablanca Automatique 8880 B SC DT - GF

Hublot Big Bang V6(F) "V6.5" SS

IWC 3777-01 ZF
IWC 3878 Spitfire V6F
IWC Big Pilot 5009-01 ZF
IWC Laureus Sport Ingenieur (by Noob on 2824)
IWC Da Vinci by TW

Jaeger-LeCoultre Diver Master Compressor (Noob)

Montblanc Timewalker Chrono - Noob A7753


PAM 000 - Luminor Base Logo (44mm) N-series Noob V2.5
PAM 005 - Luminar Marina Logo (44mm) N-series Noob V2 / N-series H maker V2
PAM 026 - Luminor Marina Destro PVD (44mm) K-series Noob V3
PAM 029 - Luminor GMT (44mm) M-series Noob V2-improved
PAM 057 - Luminor Power Reserve Titanium (44mm) DSN
PAM 087 - H maker F-series w/ A-7750
PAM 088 - Luminor GMT (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 104 - Luminor Marina Automatic (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 111 - Luminor Marina (44mm) N-series Noob V3 (and later)
PAM 112 - Luminor Base (44mm) M-N series Noob
PAM 127 - Luminor 1950 "Fiddy" (47mm) Latest Noob
PAM 164 - Luminor Marina Automatic (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 176 - Luminor Base Titanium (44mm) M-N series Noob V3
PAM 177 - Luminor Marina Titanium (44mm) N-P series Noob
PAM 187 - Luminor Submersible Chorno 1000m (47mm) Noob 7753
PAM 217 - Luminor Marina Militare 1950 Destro "Fiddy" (47mm) 2012 Noob
PAM 243 - Luminor 1950 Submersible (44mm) M-series Noob V2
PAM 285 - K-series KW/V6Fac with A7750 decorated like OPIII)
PAM 288 - Radiomir Chronograph (45mm) K-series H maker
PAM 292 - Radiomir Black Seal (45mm) J-series Noob
PAM 297 - Luminor GMT (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 299 - Luminor Marina Automatic (K-series) (44mm) O- series Noob
PAM 318 - Luminor Marina Logo (44mm) L-series Noob
PAM 346 - Radiomir Titanio (45mm) KW/V6F
PAM 356 - Luminor Chrono Daylight (44mm) O-series Noob 7753
PAM 364 - Luminor Submersible 1950 Titanium (47mm) P-series Noob
PAM 390 - Luminor Boutique Edition (44mm) N-series Noob
PAM 411 to 420 - Luminor Marina Boutiques Special Edition (44mm) KW/V6F
PAM 432 to 434 - Luminor Marina Boutiques Special Edition (44mm) H Maker
PAM 508 - Luminor 1950 Submerislbe Ceramica (47mm) KW-V6Fac Ceramic decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000 // P-KW-V6Fac Ceramic decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
PAM 569 - Luminor 1950 Submersible Dextro Titanium (47mm) KW-V6F Q-series Seagull Non-Inverted KWP9000-Seagull V2
PAM 571 - ZFac P-series P.9000 decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5 // KW-V6Fac P-series P.9000 decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000-V2. KW-V6Fac P-series P.9000 decorated Seagull NON-inverted K9000-SeagullV2.
PAM 607 - KW-V6Fac P-series Ceramic decorated A7750 NON-inverted KP9000-V2)


Rolex 114300, 39mm, Grape and Grey dial (JF, or BP )
Rolex Sub 16610 TC
Rolex TW Best/WM9 (Sub/Bluesy/DD)

Sevenfriday P series (P1-1, P3-1), V series (V2-1) and M series (not the M2-2 one)

Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300
Tag Heuer Aquaracer Calibre 5 SS on Rubber - SW200

Tudor Blackbay Red 2016 ZF (last version)
Tudor Heritage Ranger SS S Factory
Tudor Black Pelagos V6F/XF V2
Tudor Blue Pelagos V6F/XF V2


Cartier, Ballon Bleu 28 and 33mm, V6F
Franck Muller Master Square GF
IWC Da Vinci by TW
IWC Mark XVII MK
Longines, La Grande Classique SS 37mm JF
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m LMPO Noob V4
Rolex Explorer 214270 SH3135 V2 (JF)
Tudor Heritage Ranger V6F
Zenith Pilot Extra Special 20 - Black dial (V6F > ZF)

Bell & Ross 03-92 ZF (not the Golden Heritage )
Bell & Ross 03-92 Horolum Watch Achive Custom
Bell & Ross 03-93 GMT Watch Archive Custom
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms (Noob V2)
Breitling Navitimer World (black only) BP
Breitling Avenger Blackbird (GF/ GF V2)
Hublot Classic Fusion 42mm JJF black dial (V2)
IWC Portofino White Dial V4 MK
IWC Mark XVII Le Petit Prince MK
IWC Portuguese 7 days ZF (last version)
IWC Black 3714 - ZF V3 (slim movement)
Omega Seamaster 300 Spectre KW/V6F V2
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m 42 and 45mm (CrPO) Noob
PAM 687 - Acciaio Brevettato SF (only tell is open caseback)
Rolex 114300 (BP)
Rolex Yachtmaster Rhodium/Blue Noob SA3135
Rolex Submariner Ceramic 116610 Noob V6s/V7
Rolex Submariner 114060 No Date B-C Noob V7
Rolex Sea Dweller 4000 (116600) Noob V2 (SA3135 only)
Rolex Day Date 18239 TW Best/WM9
Tag Heuer Carrera calibre 1887 V6F - Ceramic Bezel Black Dial on SS
Tudor LHD Pelagos - ZF
Tudor Black Pelagos - ZF V2/V3


Breitling SuperOcean SeaWolf H-factory v2
Concord C1 - H Factory
Glashutte Senator Sixties - GF
IWC Big Pilot 5009-12 ZF
IWC Big Pilot 5009-16 ZF
IWC 5009-08 LPP ZF V2
Omega Seamaster 300
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean GMT 600m
PAM 616 - CarboTech Submersible VSF A7750
Rolex Sea Dweller Deepsea (DBlue) Noob V7
Rolex Explorer II 42mm 216570 Noob (Correct Hand Stack some reported movement issues)
Tudor Heritage Black Bay Bronze Blue XF
Zenith Extra Special Bronze Edition V6F/KW

ARF Rolex SD 43
ZF JLC Master Ultrathin Moon

Please feel free to suggest others

Updated 3 July 2018

 

[muscles]

Making this sticky. Thanks

 

[Hinclimincli]

I think the IWC Portofino is definitely NWBIG. Steel on both, same dial on both and the genuine caliber is a modified ETA 2892 (well, not much modified) whereas the rep comes with an Asian 2892. Both water resistant up to 30m so you have practically the same watch. Not worth the £3000 if you ask me.

 

[JackJ1980]

Sorry if duplicate but a few I think are spot on without a loop ootb also:
TC V, 6, 7/7x LN
TC FD YM 16622
JF New No Rehaut LN
DJ II simple dials
Wm9 YM 16622
Sean 16610LN
Wm9 16610LN 1&2
Noob deep sea sea dweller v7
Iwc Portuguese chrono new ZF thin case releases in SS
Iwc Ingy Blue LSFGF
JF V2J and V2I AP 15400
Noob polar explorer II chs
PF/MKF/BP V1 Patek Nautilus
BP Rolex DJ
BP 16600 Sea Dweller (BPSD)
More will come to me randomly.

More importantly a quick guide to the gens not to spend money on in gen (except if there’s a strap but a real croc strap):

Rolex Submariner 16610
Rolex Explorer II Polar
Rolex Sea Dweller 16600
Many iterations of Rolex Date Just
AP 15400 base
Patek Nautilus base
Vacheron Overseas base
Panerai anything but anthracite dial or forged carbon
AP SS Diver
IWC Ingy Blue LSFGF
IWC SS Portuguese Chrono
Blancpain Fifty Fathkms Sport SS base

If any of the above interest you, do some research or ask anyone here for help understanding. For buying look at TD section. All TD’s are a personal preference not one is best. Just pick one and build a relationship

 

[BackwoodsJon]

I would add a few too...
ARF Rolex SD43
GF/Noob Breitling Superocean II 44
GF Breitling Avenger 2 GMT

 

[Sloaner]

Thanks @Timnic54 for the great list!

It really helped me get into the rep world!

 

[Scott]

IWC Ingy Blue LSFGF

IIRC there are two of these, you mean the 1955 one right? I keep hearing that noob doesn't make them anymore... so if anyone wants one, better hurry! I know I've advised people to get one in the past and their QC pictures have looked like old rejects.

 

[Stuessi]

Hi all, does anyone know if the cartier tank is NWBIG? There is a new version out from ZF and the gen is quartz too

Edit: thats the watch: https://www.intime02.co/cartier/4679-tank-solo-ladies-28mm-ss-zf-1-1-best-edition-white-dial-on-black-leather-strap-ronda-quartz.html

 

[Timnic54]

Hi all, does anyone know if the cartier tank is NWBIG? There is a new version out from ZF and the gen is quartz too

Edit: thats the watch: https://www.intime02.co/cartier/4679-tank-solo-ladies-28mm-ss-zf-1-1-best-edition-white-dial-on-black-leather-strap-ronda-quartz.html

I would say so.
Some more recent Cartier have in house movements, there are some high end models with some complications. Most however are very repable (is that even a word) Interestingly all of the cabochons used in Cartier crowns are synthetic, just like the reps.

 

[drifter]

I would add a few too...
ARF Rolex SD43
GF/Noob Breitling Superocean II 44
GF Breitling Avenger 2 GMT

Yes th SD43 is bloody amazing. I sold all my noob rollies once I got the ARF SD43. It just is amazing finish as an overall package. Particularly with Xtal, dial, insert, sels and bracelet. It's a winner.. hands down.



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[Stuessi]

can you recommend me a good replacement strap for the tank? Preferably below USD100...

I would say so.
Some more recent Cartier have in house movements, there are some high end models with some complications. Most however are very repable (is that even a word) Interestingly all of the cabochons used in Cartier crowns are synthetic, just like the reps.[/QUOTE

 

[Stuessi]

can you recommend me a good replacement strap for the tank? Preferably below USD100...

I would say so.
Some more recent Cartier have in house movements, there are some high end models with some complications. Most however are very repable (is that even a word) Interestingly all of the cabochons used in Cartier crowns are synthetic, just like the reps.[/QUOTE

 

[Timnic54]

can you recommend me a good replacement strap for the tank? Preferably below USD100...

Quality Gator straps tend to be more like $150 and upwards. There are a few Ebay sellers offering Italian High quality Lizard and calf for under 100$ Here is an example .

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAL-LIZARD-LEATHER-PADDED-STRAP-HANDMADE-IN-ITALY-FOR-YOUR-CARTIER-TANK-17MM/271366732001?hash=item3f2eb7b8e1:m:mtKiX-tPkN3yqueRhXXiXXA

 

[Stuessi]

Quality Gator straps tend to be more like $150 and upwards. There are a few Ebay sellers offering Italian High quality Lizard and calf for under 100$ Here is an example .

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAL-LIZARD-LEATHER-PADDED-STRAP-HANDMADE-IN-ITALY-FOR-YOUR-CARTIER-TANK-17MM/271366732001?hash=item3f2eb7b8e1:m:mtKiX-tPkN3yqueRhXXiXXA

thank you this one looks nice! I already feared that the strap would cost me more than the watch itself - seems to be true

 

[Timnic54]

thank you this one looks nice! I already feared that the strap would cost me more than the watch itself - seems to be true

Often the case That's because the strap is gen and the watch is rep. Console yourself with the thought that the new gen strap waiting to go on my Parmigiani Hemispheres cost me £1250 !

 

[PACCBET]

Quality Gator straps tend to be more like $150 and upwards. There are a few Ebay sellers offering Italian High quality Lizard and calf for under 100$ Here is an example .

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAL-LIZARD-LEATHER-PADDED-STRAP-HANDMADE-IN-ITALY-FOR-YOUR-CARTIER-TANK-17MM/271366732001?hash=item3f2eb7b8e1:m:mtKiX-tPkN3yqueRhXXiXXA

Was waiting for my stock Tank strap to wear itself out, but what the heck. Thanks for the link.

 

[Stuessi]

Often the case That's because the strap is gen and the watch is rep. Console yourself with the thought that the new gen strap waiting to go on my Parmigiani Hemispheres cost me £1250 !

haha but I guess the Parmigiani is gen too?

 

[Timnic54]

haha but I guess the Parmigiani is gen too?

Yes