TC V7x vs JJS 16610LN Review

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sputim

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Very nice watches, both of them. Will he provide complete builds or just the case? And what about engravings between the lugs?
 
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Very nice watches, both of them. Will he provide complete builds or just the case? And what about engravings between the lugs?
Engraving is Z serial for the first 10. Not sure about the rest. The watch is a complete build but I think they’re doing casework also upon request.
 

Mike116

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Hope theres a LV on the way too jackj. Was about to go for JF non rehault but might hold off
 

ginopino

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Very impressive, only the SEL are the "more" different parts between, but at naked eye, without another watch to compare, I doubt someone could notice this.

Price? Where to get? Is a compete watch or only the case?
 
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JackJ1980

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Waaaay stubby.
Waaaaay stubby means like non existent I assume. I’m seeing cgs. Do you mean it’s a mm shorter? .5mm? Civil disagreements are great but no arrogance here please. I’m happy to say in my review I’ll also being saying the cgs are too short by about a mm to .5mm. But in a small thing like a cg it is noticeable. Especially with a crown as a reference for height. I also think it is slightly too narrow in the cgs. However those comments will be made as part of comparison and with justifications. As a noobie please (or someone using a new username) explain positions. It comes off as arrogance otherwise and this place was supposed to be trying to keep that stuff out. I even edited my post to be more civil.
 
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Spinman

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I don't really think it looks that stubby. My Gen is similar because it's never been polished. Perhaps some people are just used to the TC look that tends to have been modeled after a watch that's been serviced/polished a few times. Neither is bad necessarily nor wrong. Just different.
 
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Review:
Case overall (cgs will be different section)
The JJS is slightly thinner which surprised me on the JJS. It’s actually more gen like in that regard. Not the whole case but this part I noticed. The JJS has the more gen curve here which I highlighted in horrible markup blue:
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Thickness and shapes of case: winner is JJS

Lugs:
In my opinion the lugs were close. TC did a really good job on these with beveling and brushing and shape. The only downside was TC made the lugs and the bracelets to fit perfectly for SEL fit and recession vs shooting for perfect gen spec. So TC looks amazing on TC bracelet but won’t look the same on a gen bracelet. TC loses some points here as it can’t have bracelets swapped without any difference. But a small one because TC bracelets are also great. The JJS has a gen spec construction for lug size and hole placement. JJS re-chamfered and beveled the lugs and also rebrushed. They look very nice. I don’t see a huge difference between the TC and the JJS on the lugs. The biggest difference I saw was the length of the lug in relation to the stock bracelet. I couldn’t get a measurement I felt credible due to my caliper and tools available and the shape of a lug. Not sure if lug length is different or sel length. The two look very similar to gen (which I also added below)Here is a comparison pic:


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Crown Guards:
The TC has been the top of the pile for readily available case and CG’s that aren’t $1000 case alone options. The TC has very good CG’s. They aren’t exactly gen but they are closest I’ve personally held. The drawback of the TC cgs is the curvature up towards the pinnacle from the case. It curves too sharply. This is a clear winner to me: the TC. The JJS however is not bad. It has great lugs and looks good. If a TC didn’t exist I’d say it looks on par with a stock JF 16610 new version and is best readily available. They have a more correct curve moving up and away from the case than the TC. That is where the advantage ends though. They are about a mm too short. This is sadly noticeable even for a small amount because the crown is right there as a reference height. Also, the cgs on the JJS are a little too pointed on top and are a little to narrow by about half way up.
Winner is: TC V7x
Pics:

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